Council may vote to cut pay for incoming members
The Joliet City Council could vote next month on a 5 percent pay cut for all incoming council members who are elected in April in an effort to save tax dollars.
The Finance Committee voted this week to make the recommendation. The committee’s chairman, Tim Brophy, who is running for re-election in the 2nd District, had proposed the 5 percent cut in the past two city council meetings.
“I think it’s important that the council makes a statement about what’s going forward,” said Brophy, who was appointed Tuesday as chair of the committee, replacing Tony Uremovic, who retired from the council in late August. “We’re going to have to start with ourselves. Call it grandstanding. Call it leadership.”
City council members earn $20,000 a year. Current council members would not be affected, until re-election, according to the recommendation. City ordinance prohibits changes in pay for sitting members. The council’s five district council members are up for re-election April 5.
Brophy also suggested at-large council members, who are not up for re-election, could voluntarily give up 5 percent of their salary.
The city is facing a $30 million budget deficit as they enter their budget process for the 2011 fiscal year. A final budget is expected to be finalized in December.
In a past city council meeting, Councilwoman Jan Hallums-Quillman, who is running for mayor, suggested a 10 percent salary cut. She attended the finance committee meeting and suggested council members be paid per meeting. But, committee members decided that would be difficult to calculate since council members attend various committee meetings and have outside obligations.
The city council has two more meetings in October to vote on the issue before early November deadline to affect the incoming council members.
Don’t you just love how they decide to pass the BUCK ??? In this case, the BUCK stays put until WE ( the present council) have left with ours.
Most people are either a Democrat by design, or a Democrat by deception. That is either they were well aware the racist history of the Democrat Party and still chose to be Democrat, or they were deceived into thinking that the Democratic Party is a party that sincerely cared about Black people.
History reveals that every piece of racist legislation that was ever passed and every racist terrorist attack that was ever inflicted on African Americans, was initiated by the members of the Democratic Party. From the formation of the Democratic Party in 1792 to the Civil Rights movement of 1960′s, Congressional records show the Democrat Party passed no specific laws to help Blacks, every law that they introduced into Congress was designed to hurt blacks in 1894 Repeal Act. The chronicles of history shows that during the past 160 years the Democratic Party legislated Jim Crows laws, Black Codes and a multitude of other laws at the state and federal level to deny African Americans their rights as citizens.
History reveals that the Republican Party was formed in 1854 to abolish slavery and challenge other racist legislative acts initiated by the Democratic Party.
Some called it the Civil War, others called it the War Between the States, but to the African Americans at that time, it was the War Between the Democrats and the Republicans over slavery. The Democrats gave their lives to expand it, Republican gave their lives to ban it.
During the Senate debates on the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, it was revealed that members of the Democratic Party formed many terrorist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to murder and intimidate African Americans voters. The Ku Klux Klan Act was a bill introduced by a Republican Congress to stop Klan Activities. Senate debates revealed that the Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.
History reveals that Democrats lynched, burned, mutilated and murdered thousands of blacks and completely destroyed entire towns and communities occupied by middle class Blacks, including Rosewood, Florida, the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma, and Wilmington, North Carolina to name a few.
After the Civil War, Democrats murdered several hundred black elected officials (in the South) to regain control of the southern government. All of the elected officials up to 1935 were Republicans. As of 2004, the Democrat Party (the oldest political party in America) has never elected a black man to the United States Senate, the Republicans have elected three.
History reveals that it was Thaddeus Stevens, a Radical Republican that introduced legislation to give African Americans the so-called 40 acres and a mule and Democrats overwhelmingly voted against the bill. Today many white Democrats are opposed to paying African Americans trillions of dollars in Reparation Pay, money that should be paid by the Democratic Party.
History reveals that it was Abolitionists and Radical Republicans such as Henry L. Morehouse and General Oliver Howard that started many of the traditional Black colleges, while Democrats fought to keep them closed. Many of our traditional Black colleges are named after white Republicans.
Congressional records show it was Democrats that strongly opposed the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. These three Amendments were introduced by Republicans to abolish slavery, give citizenship to all African Americans born in the United States and, give Blacks the right to vote.
Congressional records show that Democrats were opposed to passing the following laws that were introduced by Republicans to achieve civil rights for African Americans, so in truth the real Tea party members should be Black Americans first. History proves it’s self.
The word or “catch phrase” for the next election SHOULD be AUDIT. I’m not talking transparency, all that did was raise taxes and lose jobs. I’m talking about a full, totally independent audit, at the city, county, and yes state levels.
The city gave us a ballpark, (that no one goes to) a water park,(that no one can get to) and my personal favorite: they forced people from their homes on Broadway for an obstructed view of the canal. And lets not forget: “If it’s fun, it’s in downtown Joliet!!!”
The county has given us 2 intermodal; one where employees are not paid a living wage, (and don’t get me started about non-union!). The other one well we’ll just have to wait and see. So far, it has O employees from this area. And then there’s the state. So far we are second only to California in debt, #1 worst in the country through temp agencies, and our representatives, senators and governors DON”T represent, lie and steal from the very people who pay their salaries. Not one of them can create permanent jobs for the people they are supposed to represent, but they somehow ALWAYS find ways to give themselves ” a much-needed raise!
JOLIET – City Councilman Timothy Brophy is working as a real estate agent for a downtown condominium project that received a package of incentives last month.
Brophy abstained from a vote on the incentives and did not comment as the council discussed the project, which has had city support since 2007.
Seems to me that this is going to be the biggest waste of Brophy’s and the rest of the city councils time, time that could be utilized to obtaining commitments of maybe employers bringing jobs to Joliet Illinois. Who the hell wants to live in a condo in Joliet to begin with, Look Crabigales closed and many others are just hanging by a thread in this economy.
What Brophy and the rest of the council should do is? ‘” Do what they was elected to do” Get Jobs for Joliet and get employers to come here by lowering taxes, we have a great labor base that is sitting doing nothing in this economy….Brophy’s and the Joliet city council head has been there ass for to long, maybe they should just cut a big fart and dislodge it.
Condos near Evergreen terrace…What a laugh. Is there Tax dollars for this? How would condo owners like to see Section 8 housing right across from them and the crime that goes along with it.
When you go to the polls today think of all the taxes that have been levied on your pockets in the last 4 years, stop and think if you re-elect the same people back into office will the situation change under their management of the city and county of Joliet and Will County.
I cast my vote today and I voted to oust the current regime and voted for change, I want jobs for the area, “not” more taxes by a pick-pocket elected board(s) I was and am tired of paying for the screws-up, only to be asked to fix the problem with more of my tax dollars when they have wasted so much of our tax dollars in the past.
So vote today for tomorrow your pocket my be picked clean.
I placed the below comment in the comment section of the herald (spew) news yet the Herald news censors my comments because my comment does not go along with the papers ideology of candidate pick….this makes the 3rd time I placed the below comment there. At least someone has a backbone at the herald news to take away the right of freedom of speech…Oh sorry they are a news Paper should they do that? Last post at 10/14/2008 7:11 AM CDT on suburbanchicagonews.com
Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a “catastrophe” and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.
Yet if Elected…He…has inside information on American secrets which could be offered, Why is Obama worried about a fair fight now for presidency? Is obama worried that his past may reflect on his possible actions as president or lack of action in the name of ala. Is there Something to hide? Maybe…If elected does this give Obama the official support of domestic, Middle Eastern and Latin American Marxist terrorists (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia—or its Spanish acronym FARC). Democrats must be so proud….
If Obama was a pedophile I know no body would elect him, If a pedophile was in your neighborhood would you be scared for the children? Or, would you say that’s ok and let your child hang around his or her house, Obama hangs with terrorist yet democrats seemly would vote for a block of wood if it was proclaimed democrat.
How can any one in today’s world really vote for Amabo (sorry a bit of dyslexia) If Barack Hussane. Obama has ties to terrorist affiliated persons, Guess what? these persons are still in the USA; why have the authorities not rounded up and detained for extensive questioning and investigation, of these persons, or is that not P.C just as all the other suspected terrorist have been questioned why not them? Why are these persons of questionable terrorist character permitted to live freely in the USA when our soldiers are dying at war? I believe it is because Obama is funded by big corporations and people of questionable backgrounds. they are putting money down on him so that when he becomes president they will go with their favors because they have funded his campaigns. The elections are no longer in the hands of the people, rather it is in the hands of the big corporate interests that even run the governments. Earmarks….Obama’s bread and butter and mortgage hand out to who???….Illegals that was the hard to fund loans we hear so much about but no body has the cahoonas to say, I guess it make no difference to many.
Obama declared: “It’s time to engage in diplomatic efforts to help build a new Lebanese consensus that focuses on electoral reform, an end to the current corrupt patronage system, and the development of the economy that provides for a fair distribution of services, opportunities and employment.” Well how does that statement relate here in Amaerica? We will see..I bet it does not apply to us voters and un employed here.
Obama’s comments about “legitimate causes” of terror groups and “root problems of causes and dangers” seems to echo little-noticed remarks the presidential candidate made eight days after 9/11 in which he said the attacks were carried out because of a lack of “empathy” for others’ suffering on the part of al-Qaida, whose terrorist ideology “grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.” We have poor here yet never has a American homeless person crashed a a plane into a soup kitchen.
Where is the politicians going with Joliet, January 1st 2008 we are to obey the new law of “No” smoking in public places.
Now isn’t this something else to make businesses abandon Joliet again. When leaving the Windy City for Joliet, Illinois, You see that Joliet has deteriorated under the current and previous politicians of Joliet Illinois.
Joliet has turned into a dying hole on the map, lately Joliet has added old time gas pumps on street corners to add ambiance of Rt 66 to the non-laughable joke of Joliet being brought back to what it once was in the past.
The commercial areas around the train station have become stagnant as well as most businesses have also, most businesses in Joliet that were family owned are now gone to the winds. What have we become the new generation trash man tax payers at work, “The goal should be to find a way to retrain and sustain Joliet and Will County’s work force,” I say “aggressive training initiative to retrain the work force should be a demand made by Joliet residents.” “In Joliet, we have two hotels and they’re not faring well at all especially in the downtown area. Our motels are inadequate, our restaurants are dying, our taverns, our parking lots, the food vendors, and the real estate values have fallen, all of these things are not in good financial health, yet Joliet is trying to look toward a great influx of money, of people, through a very limited medium of riverboat gambling and future homes that may or may-not be built. Riverboat gambling has not met the criteria set forth by Illinois legislators when they sold this idea to the citizens of Joliet Illinois. “It’s illogical to expect casino customers to leave the premises and spend money in nearby stores, restaurants, or bars.” And this hurts local economy and hurts property owners. The economic development we have seen was marginal at best; it has not spurred economic development. It has not created jobs. It has not boosted tourism, and it certainly has not brought new life to Joliet or Will County.
Bring in a gambling venture, and it sucks the dollars out of other areas of discretionary spending just like the employing of illegals in American businesses do also. But what do I know, I guess my eyes lie to me and my hearing must be defective too when it comes to listening to the bullshit the local politicians are spouting daily, we hear the words of encouragement yet we see nothing coming as proof, Joliet is now viewed as a modern-day Slum and the local politicians are its slumlords trying to put a band-aid on the real problems. No one seems to be thinking about good paying jobs or what we can do to attract businesses to the area; I have been to council meetings and been to web sites like www.willcountyced.com and Joliet – Incentives and Grants “Joliet and Will county government leaders are failing because of technology, market share and City and County reach, increasingly complex moving exponentially faster each day.” The dinosaurs we have in office now are falling behind while other areas are growing and leaving us behind. When you have political leaders that can’t even answer there own email how can the same political leaders bring prosperity to Joliet and Will County?